tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1758815004886180861.post3835547048600614224..comments2024-03-29T10:09:36.736+01:00Comments on The Nerdstream Era: Boiled Leather Audio Hour episode 22Stefan Sassehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03504751435668017553noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1758815004886180861.post-62046181391962930842013-10-31T16:32:10.443+01:002013-10-31T16:32:10.443+01:00I don't expect the fanboy-optimism to prevail,...I don't expect the fanboy-optimism to prevail, but I think Stannis will win the battle of the ice. <br />By the way, please send me an email, I have a question for you. Stefan Sassehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03504751435668017553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1758815004886180861.post-37407625213045721032013-10-31T15:34:05.548+01:002013-10-31T15:34:05.548+01:00This was a pleasure to listen to. I agree with you...This was a pleasure to listen to. I agree with you completely that the folly of vengeance is the main theme of the Dorne plotline. (In fact, I was thinking of writing an essay about it, but you beat me to it!) Doran *is* intellectually aware of the risks of war, but he fools himself into thinking that the dragons will allow him to achieve his vengeance without any cost. But when one lets slip the dogs of war -- as Doran does by releasing the Sand Snakes and Arianne -- one can't control the consequences. I think Doran would surely oppose the murder of Myrcella, but it's not up to him anymore -- it's up to people like the Sand Snakes and Jon Connington (who has vowed to "end the Usurper's line for good and all"). So we'll see moral horrors like Myrcella's murder, as well as the inevitable bloody cost on the people of Dorne once Dany arrives.<br /><br />However, the question of how Martin treats Manderly's vengeance is an interesting one. Probably the most common fan theory is that Stannis will win the Battle of Ice with Manderly's help, Davos will show up with Rickon, the Boltons will be deposed, and then we'll get into the Others and such. This a bit optimistic to me, but one can see how the possibility is set up. Do you expect this to happen? If it does happen, do you think your thesis is contradicted, as this would apparently be a pretty successful vengeance operation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com